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Before dealing with specific articles

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of the Preamble to the Rome Statute

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for the International Criminal Court,

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a few words by way of introduction.

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Before the early 1990s

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International Criminal Law had lost

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its importance. After it was used

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at the Nuremberg Tribunal after

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the Second World War, it really

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went into limbo and it took the

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war in the former Yugoslavia to

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galvanize the Security Council in 1993

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to establish the first ever truly

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international criminal court,

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The International Criminal Tribunal

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for the former Yugoslavia.

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That was followed the following year in 1994

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by the establishment of the

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International Criminal Tribunal for Rwanda,

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also set up by the Security Council.

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Both of those tribunals are referred

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to usually as the ad hoc tribunals.

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They began a new interest in

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International Criminal Law and it

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was really the successes of those

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two ad hoc tribunals that led to the

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international community establishing

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the permanent International Criminal Court

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at a conference held in Rome

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in the middle of 1998.

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The International Criminal Court

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would not I believe have come

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about but for the relative successes

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of the ad hoc tribunals.

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They advanced international criminal law.

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They used international criminal law

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which had pretty much been neglected

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international criminal courts, staffed by

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judges from around the world,

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by prosecutors from around the world,

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they established that such a court

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could in fact hold fair trials,

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fair international criminal trials.

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I now turn to consider some of

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the specific articles of the

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Preamble of the Rome Statute for

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Preamble [article] one states that

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“Conscious that all peoples are united

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by common bonds, their cultures pieced

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together in a shared heritage,

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and concerned that this delicate mosaic

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may be shattered at any time”.

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The very first Preamble demonstrates

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the concern of the international community

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that international criminal law

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should be seen to be universal.

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If women are raped in eastern Asia,

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or in southern Africa, or anywhere

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else in the world, their victimhood

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is the same, it's no different.

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war crimes, the victims having

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of being diminished or being demeaned,

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of being of being put through

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painful experiences, and for loved ones,

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of having members of their

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family taken from them in

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grossly unlawful ways.

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The very idea of genocide is a

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horrible concept of evil leaders,

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an end to the existence of a whole

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I turn now to the second

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It reads as follows: “Mindful that

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during this century millions of children,

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women and men have been victims

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of unimaginable atrocities that

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deeply shock the conscience of humanity”.

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Clearly, the reference is to the 20th century.

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Bear in mind that this Statute

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was written and approved at

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the meeting in Rome [at the end]

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It is a sad reflection that the

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persistence of the committal of

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these huge crimes to which

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one thinks of the genocides that

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accompanied the Second World War,

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the Holocaust; the genocide committed

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in Cambodia and in Iraq, and the terrible

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wars that plagued the African continent,

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but it continues now in Syria and Myanmar.

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consider that only some peoples

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of the world are capable of committing

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genocide and not others.

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of people, international war crimes

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It reads, “Recognizing that such

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grave crimes threaten the peace,

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security and well-being of the world”.

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It should be borne in mind that

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in most cases egregious war crimes

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accompanied the Rwanda killings

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the results of destabilization in other

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Germany in the middle 1990s.

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One aspect of the Security Council

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is the disappointing, certainly to me,

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the disappointment of the Security Council

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on the actions it takes.

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the Security Council is given the power

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to request the International Criminal Court

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International Criminal Court to undertake

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investigations into Sudan arising

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own peremptory resolution was respected

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by the target country, Sudan.

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government refused in many cases to

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One would've expected the Security Council

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to use its powers including boycotts

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to put the Sudan situation on ice.

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to the American demand that the costs

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of the referral should be born 100%

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and that not one cent of United Nations

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funds should be used for referrals made

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Preamble to the Rome Statute for

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trials or investigations into war crimes

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some acknowledgment, some recognition

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of the victimhood of the millions of victims

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who suffered as a result of war crimes committed

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number of war crimes that that are committed,

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and the Rome Statute has had

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a deterrent effect is of course difficult,

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that it has had a deterrent effect.

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reclaim its own regions that had been

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overtaken by the Serb Army in what

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was called Operation Storm, the leaders

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they should not commit war crimes.

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existence of the International Criminal Tribunal

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for the former Yugoslavia, and they didn't

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want to aggravate the situation

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that existed in any event of war

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crimes having been committed.

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Army did commit war crimes,

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warnings not being given by their leaders

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not to commit war crimes.

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very different continent, in Latin America,

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there can be no question that the

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Colombian government was very concerned

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about the investigation, the preparatory

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investigation by the Chief Prosecutor

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of the International Criminal Court

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into possible war crimes having

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been committed in Columbia.

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I have no doubt that the presence of

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the International Criminal Court,

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and of course the fact that Columbia

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had ratified the Rome Statute,

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has played a very positive role leading

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to the present negotiated settlement

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between the government of Columbia and

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[the] rebel movements FARC and ELN.

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So, there is some evidence of deterrence

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and I have little doubt, and certainly it’s

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my great hope that there will be 

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my great hope that there will be

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more deterrence coming from the

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ICC in the years to come.

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The seventh paragraph of the Preamble to the

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Rome Statute provides as follows,

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it says “Recalling that it is the duty

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of every State to exercise its

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criminal jurisdiction over those

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responsible for international crimes”.

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The International Criminal Court has often been

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referred to as a court of last resort.

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It is subject to the provisions which

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appear later in the Rome Statute,

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the provision for complementarity.

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The idea is — and this is very clearly

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stated, and is really a basis

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of the Rome Statute — is that

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the International Criminal Court

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is a Court of last resort.

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That nations are expected to investigate

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and prosecute war crimes committed

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within the jurisdiction of their

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own domestic courts at home.

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With the ad hoc tribunals,

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it was the other way around.

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Because of the powers of the Security Council,

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the ad hoc tribunals had primacy.

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The ad hoc tribunals could decide what

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cases should be heard by them

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in Arusha in the case of the Rwanda Tribunal,

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and in The Hague in the case of the

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Yugoslavia Tribunal, they could decide

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what cases they would hear and

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what cases should be left to

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the jurisdiction of domestic courts.

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The International Criminal Court

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is exactly the other way around.

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If domestic prosecutions are

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instituted in good faith, that robs the

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International Court of any jurisdiction.

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So the first investigation that is made

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by the Prosecutor of the

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International Criminal Court is to

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determine whether there are domestic

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proceedings being set afoot,

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whether they have been set afoot

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in good faith and in earnest,

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nd not as some sort of dishonest

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way of shielding their own people from

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the International Criminal Court.

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If there are these good-faith

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investigations and prosecutions,

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as I've just said, that robs the

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International Criminal Court of its jurisdiction.

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I would mention in this regard too,

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the unhappy situation that the larger

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and more powerful states who are members

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of the United Nations have not joined

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in the International Criminal Court.

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They have not ratified the

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Rome Statute for the

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International Court Criminal Court.

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I refer in particular to Russia,

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to China, to India, and the

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saddest of all, the United States.

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I suppose it's common to large states

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that they don't like international courts

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and international institutions looking over

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their shoulders and second-guessing

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their own civilian leaders — or their own

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civilian leaders or their military leaders.

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It's the attitude of the powerful

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and it's an exercise of their sovereignty,

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and it demonstrates their objection to

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having their sovereignty in any way compromised.

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Of course, in some cases, it does suit

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such countries to accept invasions

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of their sovereignty, when it comes

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to overflight rights under the

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International Convention [on] Civil Aviation,

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all countries have to accept under

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that convention the right of civilian aircraft

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to overfly their airspace.

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When it comes to the international

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postal and telegraphic conventions,

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all countries accept the obligation

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to have postal items delivered in

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their own countries even if

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they come from countries at which

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might be temporarily at war.

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It’s very much an <i>a la carte</i> menu

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for members of the international community

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as to which international situations,

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international institutions, or international courts

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they are prepared to accept and

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obviously in making those decisions,

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not unexpectedly, governments act

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in what they perceived to be the

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self-interest of their own countries.

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I turn to the eighth paragraph of the Preamble,

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it provides that “Reaffirming the Purposes

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and Principles of the Charter of the

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United Nations, and in particular

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that all States shall refrain from

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the threat of the use of force

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against the territorial integrity or

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political independence of any State,

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or in any other manner inconsistent with

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the Purposes of the United Nations”.

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So, here a limit is put on the

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use of force unlawfully.

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The Rome Statute provides for

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the recognition of the crime of aggression

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which is different from the other crimes

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contained in the Rome Statute.

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The other crimes all relate to the manner

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in which war is fought, but the crime

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of aggression relates to the very act

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of making war and recognizes

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that it's not an absolute right that

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nations have of making war,

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unless it's excused in two respects

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under the Charter of the United Nations:

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it must either be in self-defense;

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or it must be authorized by the

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Security Council acting under

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a Chapter 7 resolution.

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The definition of aggression was

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a sticking point at the Rome Conference

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and it was put in, aggression was

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put in as a crime, but it's applicability

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was postponed to the first review conference

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which was only held [over 10 years later],

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in 2010, in Kampala in Uganda.

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At that Conference, surprisingly

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there was unanimity on the definition

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of aggression and the provisions

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of the amendments that were agreed

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to at Kampala are still

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to come into force.

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Whether they will, is still a matter

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of doubt because it requires the

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consent of a large number of the members

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of the Assembly of States Parties [of the]

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International Criminal Court.

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Those countries, those are 124 countries

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that have thus far agreed to the jurisdiction

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of the International Criminal Court.

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I've already mentioned

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the idea of complementarity.

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It’s to be found in the eleventh

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article of the Preamble, which provides,

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“Emphasizing that the International

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Criminal Court established under

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this Statute shall be complementary to

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national criminal jurisdictions”.

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It's important, I would suggest,

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in order for complementarity to work

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as it should, for the International Criminal Court

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to be far more proactive in what

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is understood by the expression

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“positive complementarity”.

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It's important for countries in which

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war crimes are committed,

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or likely to be committed, to have the

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capacity to investigate themselves,

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to have them prosecuted in their

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domestic courts, and it should be the

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work of the international community,

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including the International Criminal Court,

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to assist countries, particularly developing

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countries to build up their own capacity

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which would enable them more efficiently

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and more swiftly to investigate war crimes

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committed in their own country.

